A book published recently should be considered doubtful if it lacks good standard reference citations. There were large accessions to this new colony in 1711 and 1717 and a few years later. By Sarah Fitzpatrick, Tom Winter, Ken Dilanian and Michael Kosnar. . Weiser came back to New York in 1723. It is was something of a surprise to find the the Ketzebach line were Loyalists and went to Canada just prior or during the Revolutionary war period. Some of the inhabitants were massacred, others abducted. Jones, Henry Z. Jr. and Annette Kunselman Burgert. WebJohann Adam Haus, Year: 1709. Rather than being fit objects of charity, they had become, in the words of an anonymous pamphleteer, a parcel of vagabonds, who might have lied comfortably enough in their native country, had not the laziness of their dispositions and the report of our well-known generosity drawn them out of it.. While on a trip to Philadelphia with The Chief, Conrad Weiser met Benjamin Franklin. Roberta, once more you have created magic. We had a parcel that came over about five years ago, who purchased land about sixty miles west of Philadelphia, and proved quiet and industrious.". Heads of Families p. My sources for Johann Friedrich Haegar are: 1) US and Canada, Passenger Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, an Ancestry.com database indicating he came to New York in 1709; 2) he is also listed in American Immigrant Minister, 1690-1811 by Gerald Fothergill, also found on Ancestry.com; and 3) The German Element in the United States, Vol 1, chpt 4, The First Exodus-The Palatine Immigration to New York. Mohawk Valley Soon an alternate image of the poor Palatine refugees emerged. The survivors were encamped in tents, the had brought with them from England, on Nutting, now Governor's Island. in red wax, as noted in Dr. Andrew's Guide." https://sites.google.com/site/sjzscertainfolksandevents/the-curious-life-of-simon-siron. WIKITREE PROTECTS MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION BUT ONLY TO THE EXTENT STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND PRIVACY POLICY. All Perhaps we could compare notes. The Kau-ta-tn-chunk (Kittatiny or Blue Mountain) extending from the Delaware hundreds of miles westwards, was not an insurmountable barrier - that they crossed and laid out farms where shortly afterwards they, their wives and children, were exposed to the torch, hatchet and scalping knife of the savages, and their midnight assault and slaughter. it, or downloading it; this information is copyrighted Liz, Roberta: Ive uploaded my dads DNA to Ancestry and havent nailed this one down. June, 1710 to September, 1714 I have Palatine forbears but mine went to Ireland! Im trying to confirm/rule out the surname Schaffer as that of his 5th great-grandmother. Typhus continued to decimate the emigrants. I love this story. Did you ever get farther back than Melchor? Note that the spellings of names on these lists should not be assumed to match the spellings that the people's baptisms and marriages were registered under in Europe. 117. This does NOT increase the price you pay but helps me to keep the lights on and this informational blog free for everyone. I love these old brick streets too. 1711 to this time. In 1771, Orange County was greatly reduced in area. Johann Balthazar Loesch and Johann Emerich Bott were both her parental lineage.She did a good job of preserving the history for me and I used it to do a middle school report on my Ancestry. Thank you for this warm and humanizing story of our Palatine ancestors (I have more than 50 direct ancestors among the 1709ers who settled in the Hudson Valley after enduring St. Katherines). He was a bonded surveyor 1761-1769 in Augusta County, Virginia. My 7th great grandfather was one of these Palatines. This ancient Fitzgerald castle has been completely restored and is occupied by the O'Driscoll family. The colony still continued to increase. Simmendinger Register. the summer of 1931 Mr. Boyd Ehle through his London agents caused a search WebJune 14th: 2,600 Palatines, driven from their homes by the ravages of two wars and religious persecution ( the Palatinate is along the Rhine river ), arrived at Nutten Island ( Governors Having reached Schoharie, they made improvements upon the lands Queen Anne had granted them. Ive found that the definitive genealogical work for our 1710s (when many arrived in the American Colonies) is The Palatine Families of New York: a study of the German immigrants who arrived in colonial New York in 1710, Henry Z. Jones Yeah, Ive done a ton of research on this family over the past 35 years and am working my way through Hank Joness books and others to answer that one last question: Gertrude who? A bunch of other Ancestry researchers believe its Meleut but I have found no evidence of that name even appearing in the colonies. Two thousand were consigned to the grave. These two classes, Newlander and speculators, resorted to diverse arts in order to effect their purposes. I cant thank Doris enough! The assembly highly approved of this scheme; to assist him in the execution of it, they passed an act, August 20, 1731, which secured to him a reward of 400, upon his bringing over to Carolina a hundred effective men. Katherine by the Tower.. Henry Z. Jones Jr., "Some Newly-Discovered German Origins for the Palatine Families of New York-1710,", WeRelate contributors, "Source:New York Genealogical and Biographical Record (New York Genealogical and Biographical Society)," in, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, http://www.werelate.org/wiki/Source:New_York_Genealogical_and_Biographical_Record_%28New_York_Genealogical_and_Biographical_Society%29, https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/index.php?title=Palatine_Records_in_the_United_States&oldid=5050552, Jones, Henry Z., Jr. "Emigrants from Laubenheim, Germany, to New York in 1709/10,", Jones, Henry Z., Jr. "Some Additional Discoveries on the German Origins of the Palatine Families of New York,". Hi, Dorcas. Jacob Cobels wife was Anna Marie Egli and they had daughter Maria Barbara after their arrival in the US. Between forty and fifty thousand left their native country "their hearths where soft affections dwell." Along the same mountain, within the limits of Berks, Lebanon and Dauphin county - Reichelsdorfer, Gerhart, Neidung, Klug, or Kluck, Linderman, Schott, Craushar, Zeissloff, Wunch, Dieppel, Henly, Spitler, Nocker, Maurer, Boshar, Fell, Kuhlmer, Lang, Trump, Yager, Sechler, Schetterly, Sauter, Geiger, Ditzler, Franz, Schnebele, Mosser, Fincher, Hubler, Marloff, Wolf, Handsche, Weisser, Miess, Lebenguth, Motz, Noah, Windelblech, Zeuchmacher, etc. Here, surrounded on all sides by severed clans of Indians, they located in the gloomy silent shades of a virgin forest, whose undisturbed solitude was yet uncheered by the murmurs of the honey bee, or the twitterings of the swallow, those never-failing attendants upon the woodman's axe. Many of these men were assigned so-called Hunter List numbers when they arrived in New York State. If you need my DNA just ask. My ancestors wouldnt recognize it. This is likely Jacobs mill creek. 61 days 5th August to this day. I descend from Albrecht/Albright, Schaeffer/Shaffer, and several more that I am trying to nail down, that I am certain are in this settlement. . Many switched from Catholicism to Protestantism in the New World.[3]. One hundred of them were massacred by the Tuskarora Indians, Sept 22, 1707. They still speak the German language. This area has been made into a lovely waterfront park which includes the docks of course, and thehistoricDickens Inn, shown with the red hanging baskets, above. Although 6 notations are given in the journal, only two are given here, 1710 and 1712. (2) Im trying to figure out the maiden name of my 6th g-grandmother Gertrude/Gertraut, married about 1720 to Johan Jurg Kast jr. Johans Palatine family traveled from the East Camp to Weiserdorf (now Middleburgh, Schoharie), then to Herkimer. July 4th: The Germans were principally farmers. This morning I heard from Nan Dixon, the author of Palatine Roots. She has a couple of copies left and will sell me one. Palatines by A large number of Irish Palatines subsequently migrated to Ontario, Canada. Thank you. .97 days from 25 June abating Other family genealogies may be published on websites maintained by a family organization (possibly with a name like "The So-and-So Family Association, Inc.") or distributed privately to the members of a family organization. There is an Irish Palatine Special Interest Group (IP-SIG) of the Ontario Genealogical Society: https://ip-sig.ogs.on.ca/, Id also like to mention that there is an Irish Palatine Genealogy group on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688860294729114/ http://doriswheeler.org/ui24.htm, Doris, Thank you for the reply. I descend from Jacob Borst one of the Palatine emigrants. Thank you for this article and thank EVERYBODY for all the links within the comments. This was just the beginning of the tidal wave. p. - North Dakota State FB Hunter Luepke - per NFL Network - Mississippi State OLB Tyrus Wheat - per NFL Network, which adds it's a "deal that includes a $20,000 signing They wielded the mattock, the axe and the maul, and by the power of brawny arms rooted up the grubs, removed saplings, felled the majestic oaks, laid low the towering hickory; prostrated, where they grew, the walnut, poplar, chestnut - cleaved such as suited the purpose, into rails for fences - persevered untiringly until the forest was changed into arable field. BOYD EHLE. At Elizabethtown, where the first English settlement was made in New Jersey, 1664, there were many Germans prior to 1730. When I enter the search word Palatine at FTDNA, nothing is returned. The redevelopedpark where Im standing,is located in the area between the green St. It took four to six weeks to sail down the Rhine to Rotterdam. May 1, 2023 7:30 am CT. Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community. WebHunter Lists. two folio volumes, clearly written and bound in undressed calf are the statement p. By summer, some were moved to the fields and barns of Blackheath and Camberwell, now part of metropolitan London. As a descendant of more than 50 1710 Palatines, I am always interested: https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about/background. Thats exactly how I felt when I discovered them as well. In Europe, they too had been the victims of bloody persecution. Theres A LOT of other great historical information besides specific family info. I guess that is the very meaning of redevelopment. for distribution, sale, or profit. Cowboys agreed to terms with undrafted rookie WR Jalen Moreno-Cropper from Fresno State, person familiar with deal said. In the 1830s, 185 families left Ireland and settled in Canada - mainly Ontario. Chris, The 1709ers German Palatinates 52 Ancestors #137, http://www.americanancestors.org/StaticContent/articles?searchby=author&subquery=Marian%20S.%20Henry&id=351, https://sites.google.com/site/sjzscertainfolksandevents/the-curious-life-of-simon-siron, https://www.facebook.com/groups/1688860294729114/, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about/background, http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/palatine, https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/palatine-dna-project/about, https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/272283. You can still read St. On the way to the first of three quilt shops, we told him about our travel snafu and the tour we had hoped to take. belong to East Camp. . His parents were Johan Nicholas Schaeffer and Maria Katherine Suder from Relsburg, Germany. It was the only one available. In 1734, Pury brought two hundred and seventy persons more from Switzerland. Roberta, Hunter in New York 1710 Aug. 31 - John Philip Lepper, 12, orphan bound to John Hallock of Brookhaven Sept. 14 - Justina Mona, 12, orphan bound One of the places I was really looking forward to seeing was the Tower of London so I could, from there, hopefully, see St. Katherines by the Tower. Cowboys agreed to terms with undrafted rookie WR Jalen Moreno-Cropper from Fresno State, person familiar with deal said. A Note to Researchers using this Web-site: As you use this site, please keep in In 1736 it was 736, and it rose to 1528 in 1737. WebAnspach, Arendorff, Barthel, Baest, Batzin, Bauch, Bell, Bellinger, Bender, Berg, Bergman, Bernhardt, Betzer, Bierman, Blass, Bonenstiehl, Bonroth, Borst, Brack, Braun, Briegel, Bruchle, Buck, Burckardt, Busch, Clevenius, Conrad, Dachstatter, Dahles, Daether, Deuchert, Dill, Dillenbachin, Dings, Donsbach, Dopff, Dorn, Dreschler, Drumbaur, Drumm, A Committee dedicated to coordinating their settlement and dispersal sought ideas for their employment. Of course, onlyproperty owners received compensation and that didnt include the tenants. Ive just forwarded your post to my friend Garry Finkell, president of the New York State chapter of the Palatines To America. . If you are a woman interested in testing the direct male line of a Palatine ancestor, please consider whether you have identified a suitable male (father, brother, uncle, etc.) I did not know that!!! After hearing of the problems that The Germans were having in the Albany area; Mr. Franklin facilitated an offer between William Penn and the Settlers, being offered up to 100 acres each of free land for settling in Pennsylvania. The firm Hope provided eight ships of which the Winter Galley was one. [1] Three principal sources documenting the identities of individuals involved in this large migration are: (1) The Rotterdam Sailing Lists of 1709 (Holland), (2) The London Census of Palatines of 1709 (England), (3) The Hunter Subsistence Lists 1710-1712 (New York). Their frail ship was, by reason of adverse winds, carried into the Delaware bay. Of the large number that came to England, in 1708 and 1709, seven thousand, after having suffered great privations, returned, half naked and in despondency, to their native country. I had Simmons and other lines arrive with them. His chief German researcher, Carla Mittelstaedt-Kubaseck literally went village to village searching old church books seeking 1709ers origins. followed by the surname I was looking for. My husband, Jim, and I were visiting London. Any how, sorry if I rambled. Ironic, considering many of the Germans in Lancaster County, PA had left their homes fleeing religious persecution. 55 Mannor of Lobingston 25 March 1711. . The 5-11, 172-pound receiver caught 83 Johan Peter Wagner is my relation and his story is Palatine Roots by Nancy Wagoner Dixon 1994. There were some descendants who came back to Vermont and later to MInnesota. Sorry if this is inappropriate. I think someone grabbed a random hint and a bunch of others copied it. There is still a functioning Seminary there today. Castle Matrix is the home of Thomas Southwell, the landlord who brought the Palatines to Limerick. My family later changed the spelling of our name to Zhe in the early 1860s; I havent been able to find out the reason for the change. after my name and ended up in Canada. Along Rt. and not to be reproduced Michael enlisted December 1, 1777 in Captain Bentley's Company, 3rd Virginia Regiment, commanded by Col. John Neville, formally known at Name Henrich Henry Shenkel The third of the parent colonies, ,is the place where the most famous Irish Palatines lived. Also, check Gov. Wish everyone well in their family journeys. preponderance of evidence. While this project was initially focused on Kobel/Coble males, anyone who descends from a Kobel/Cobel line is welcome to join. posted up in alphabetical order. Article on Palatine ancestors free on Jstor, The families from which the writer is descended have no. I have a Palatine family Everett that stayed in Limerick, Ireland for 100 years and then moved to Australia. To contact him, visit his website: After the fall of the Holy Roman Empire in 1806, the Palatine nationality came to refer specifically to people of the Rhenish Palatinate, known simply as "the Palatinate".. American Palatines, e.g. However Ill talk to Garry Finkell about spreading the work to our members about your work. These are palatines who settled in NY State. where I found tons of info by searching p. 860-388-4656 Fax. WebTOWN OF PALATINE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, NY The Town of Palatine Ancestor Registry is for families you've accurately traced to this township only. Im not experienced with GEDmatch interpretation, so I dont know the chances of a match with your people. However, the story doesnt stop here. They were those of whom Governor Thomas said, 1738: 'This Province has been for some years the asylum of the distressed Protestants of the Palatinate, and other parts of Germany; and I believe, it may truthfully he said, that the present flourishing condition of it is in a great measure owing to the industry of those people; it is not altogether the fertility of the soil, but the number and industry of the people, that makes a country flourish.'. Drollinger/Trollinger/Trolinger/Trulinger/Drullinger. Strassburger, Ralph Beaver; edited by William John Hinke. This was done in pursuance of a scheme, proposed by Mr. Pury to the Assembly of South Carolina; his scheme was to propel the southern frontier of Carolina with brave and laborious people, such as the Swiss are known to be. The coast, so poor and beggarly at first, and once known as the German coast, has since become the producer and the receptacle of such wealth, so as to be now know by the appropriate name of Coast of Gold. Yay! 644 S Sutton Rd, Streamwood, IL 60107 (708) 733-7750. Edenkoben, Palatinate, Bavaria, Germany Documentary Some Palatines spent time (from a few months to a few generations) in other countries, including Ireland. locations are from the census reports in Doc. The Germans already in London now realized that the queen had never planned to settle them in America and had been completely unprepared for their arrival. Henry Jones' research regarding several Palatine groups is highly regarded and generally can be considered reliable. Various influences were brought to bear upon the increase of the influx. Cheers I am so thankful to have even more information on my ancestors! Before June 1700, he married Marianne. Surely no kindlier History of New York, Vol. England understood well the true policy to increase the number of the people in her American colonies - she retained at home her own subjects, encourage the emigration of Germans; by this England was the gainer, without an diminution of her inhabitants. For example, the entry Abelman, Johann Peter 2-I, 2-0. Bremen, a village in the same county, and Frankfort, in Waldo county, were undoubtedly laid out, or settled by Germans, as the names would indicate. On my fathers side my grandmothers parents were mostly derived from Palatine immigrants. Until now, I was unaware of the hardships they faced in Europe. Our family story does not tell about the treatment of the Palatines by the French Army, but relates that the winter of 1708-09 was the worst weather on record. This page was last edited on 6 December 2022, at 01:08. Palatine 1709ers. German Palatine Migration to America 1709 January 31, 2022. June 14th: III gives a census of those in New York, also those These were soon followed by others. Compiled and Arranged by Lou D. MacWethy Germany to England to New York to Wisconsin and in the 1940s to California. Accept nothing without further checking. Reconstructions were based on the assumption that the Hunter lists are arranged roughly chronologically in the order of the immigrants' arrival at New York. in general and descendants of the Palatines in particular have long felt a being Widows and Orphans have been sussisted to this time. Their arrival in England, and the inability of the British Government to integrate them, caused a highly politicized debate over the merits of immigration. 1710 He was Johann Friedrich Haegar, the son of Johann Henrich Haegar and Anna Catherine Friesenhagen. Birth Mar 29 1718 At Goshenhoppen there was a German Reformed church, organized as early as 1717. At lunchtime its teeming with people in business attire from the office buildings. WebThis project analyzes the DNA of men who descend along the DIRECT MALE LINE from the Palatine men who left Germany during the early 18th century, DURING THE PERIOD 1708 WebPalatine Ships to New York in 1710 These 12 ships left London in December 1709 and carried about 3200 Palatine immigrants to New York. In 1738, some arrived in Pennsylvania and located at Bethlehem. At the time these Palatines left England for North Carolina, the Rev. You can see the church and cloisters and surrounding small streets and houses. They are my 6th great grandparents. are presumed to have been residents of east Camp. When the opportunity to send the entire group to New York and Pennsylvania arose, they were all too happy to take advantage of the opportunity and send them on their way.